Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
Mon nom de domaine est : w124.org
Et j'utilise l'offre : MXPLAN 1000 hosting
Je rencontre la problématique suivante :
J'ai plusieurs mailing listes et les personnes qui ont une adresse chez free.fr ont un souci pour recevoir les messages envoyé à ces mailing listes.
J'ai mis des XXXXXXXXX pour anonymiser les adresses dans cet exemple.
Encore aujourd'hui j'ai eu cette alerte par mail EZMLM Warning :
Bonjour ! Je suis le programme ezmlm. Je m'occupe de la liste
de diffusion xxxxxxx@w124.org.
Un certain nombre de messages provenant de la liste de diffusion
XXXXXXXXXXX n'ont pas pu vous etre remis correctement. En attachement, vous trouverez
une copie du premier message de retour a l'envoyeur que j'ai recu.
Si le message que vous lisez actuellement ne parvient pas non plus a
destination, un dernier message vous sera envoye. Si celui-ci echoue aussi,
votre adresse sera malheureusement retiree de la liste XXXXXXXXXXXXX.
J'ai conserve une liste des messages de la liste de diffusion XXXXXXXXXXXXXX qui
n'ont temporairement pas pu etre delivres a votre adresse.
Voici les numeros des messages en question :
1469
1472
1485
1486
— Ci-dessous se trouve une copie du message problematique qui m'est revenu :
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:16:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: MAILER-DAEMON@mo586.mail-out.ovh.net (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXX-return-1469-XXXXXXX=free.fr@w124.org
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This is the mail system at host mo586.mail-out.ovh.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
: host mx1.free.fr[212.27.48.6] said: 550 spam detected (in
reply to end of DATA command)
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Arrival-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:16:38 +0000 (UTC)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; XXXXXXX@free.fr
Original-Recipient: rfc822;XXXXXX@free.fr
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Mailing-List: Pour toute requete administrative, contactez XXXXXXXXXXX-help@w124.org; Liste geree par ezmlm
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Est-ce que vous savez ce qu'il faut faire pour corriger cela ?
Cordialement, Fred.
<blockquote><br />Est-ce que vous savez ce qu'il faut faire pour corriger cela ?<br /></blockquote><br /><br />Bonjour,<br /><br />OVH (qui héberge w124) a reçu ce mail en provenance de jf...@free.fr , depuis les serveurs de free.fr, à destination de ad....@w124. Pas de problème, aucun spam détecté.<br /><br />Quand OVH a voulu envoyer le message depuis la mailing list vers Free, Free a décrété que c'était du spam.<br /><br />Seul Free pourrait expliquer leur décision.<br /><br />Free a pris connaissance de l'entièreté du message, en-têtes et texte inclus, avant de poser son refus.<br />Peut-être parce que l'expéditeur est @free.fr mais ça provient des serveurs d'OVH. Pourtant OVH respecte les règles en mettant l'adresse d'expéditeur de service "Return-Path: XXXXXXXXXXXX-return-1469-XXXXXX=free.fr@w124.org"<br /><br />La faute est chez Free et non chez OVH.<br />Ou bien ça ressemble bien à du spam ...
Bonjour,
Merci pour cette réponse.
Je vais maintenant voir avec free.fr
Cordialement, Fred.